Here is the full video of the fascinating conversation between the writers Brandon Taylor, A. Natasha Joukovsky, and Trevor Cribben Merrill which took place at the 2023 NOVITĀTE conference in October 2023. It was moderated by Kevin Rulo. I’m delighted to be able to share it for the first time with you here.
The discussion centered around the problem of “writing after having read René Girard”, as all of these novelists are doing (and doing at an extraordinarily high level).
Panelist
has recently launched a Substack exploring this problem further, and has framed it up nicely in his first post. Trevor tells the story of how the writer Milan Kundera (author of The Unbearable Lightness of Being), his favorite writer as a new college, led him to René Girard through a footnote in one of his essays, Testaments Betrayed. This eventually led Trevor back to an appearance that the two writers, Kundera and Girard, made together on French radio in 1989. (You can listen to it here.)“I had the double pleasure of reading you, and of reading you too late,” Kundera tells Girard—because he would have most likely had problems writing his first short stories had he already read Girard at that point. One could argue that Girard’s insights in his first book (Deceit, Desire, and the Novel) reveal too much, in a way that could cripple a novelist. It has the potential to make them creatively stuck, believing that they can never again write anything real—something that is not mimetically mechanistic, for instance.
As you’ll see, the panelists have different opinions on this point, and many others. I am grateful to reach of them for accepting my invitation.
The Interlocutors
Brandon Taylor
A. Natasha Joukovsky
Trevor Cribben Merrill
Moderator: Kevin Rulo
Kevin is Assistant Professor of English at The Catholic University of America and serves as both the Director of the Writing & Rhetoric Program and the Director of the University Writing Center at university. He specializes in transatlantic 20th century literature, especially the relationship between modernism and satire. His recent book, Satiric Modernism, examines the flourishing of satiric theory and practice in experimental literature and art from the previous century to the present. His research and teaching expertise includes writing studies and writing centers, with recent and forthcoming work on writing instruction for nursing graduate students and on the history of the essay.
I hope you enjoy the conversation.
Deceit, Desire, and the Contemporary Novelist